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Against Ranked Teams - Week 6

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This year I will be again charting how teams have done “against ranked teams”, which is something that always comes up at the end of the year when the arguments over who should be in the NCAA tournament start. As usual, this is not meant to end those arguments, just to give those making them something to look at in forming their opinions. This is just one thing to look at. But I think it’s a big thing.

I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)

Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.

WEEK 6
Oklahoma beat #3 Wichita State 91-83 = +31 points
Rutgers beat #15 Seton Hall 71-65 = +17 points
East Tennessee State lost to #10 Xavier 66-68 = +14 points
Tennessee lost to #7 North Carolina 73-78 = +14 points
Nebraska lost to #13 Kansas 72-73 = +12 points
George Washington lost to #6 U. of Miami 50-59 = +11 points
Oakland lost to #2 Michigan State 73-86 = +11 points
North Carolina beat #20 Tennessee 78-73 = +11 points
Virginia Tech lost to #8 Kentucky 86-93 = +11 points
Vanderbilt lost to #5 Arizona State 64-76 = +9 points
Indiana beat #18 Notre Dame 80-77 = +8 points
North Dakota lost to #12 Gonzaga 83-89 = +8 points
Oklahoma State beat #19 Florida State 71-70 = +8 points
Clemson beat #22 Florida 71-69 = +5 points
Temple lost to #1 Villanova 67-87 = +5 points
Butler lost to #17 Purdue 67-82 = -6 points
Davidson lost to #16 Virginia 60-80 = -10 points
St. Peter’s lost to #15 Seton Hall 61-84 = -12 points
New Mexico lost to #23 Arizona 73-89 = -13 points
UCLA lost to #25 Cincinnati 63-77 = -13 points
Mississippi State lost to #25 Cincinnati 50-65 = -14 points
Rice lost to #24 Texas Tech 53-73 = -18 points
Texas Southern lost to #21 Baylor 68-99 = -26 points
Kennesaw State lost to #24 Texas Tech 53-82 = -27 points
Savannah State lost to #21 Baylor 86-118 = -27 points
Savannah State lost to #9 Texas A&M 66-113 = -30 points
Wheeling Jesuit lost to #11 West Virginia 50-98 = -33 points
(FYI: Wheeling Jesuit Cardinals - Wikipedia )

Comments: it was exam week for most schools and the ranked teams mostly took the week off, with the action picking up on the weekend. I think the days of getting points from playing Florida may be over. They just aren’t as good as people thought. Savannah State is counting their money. I hope they spend it well.


Top 25

Michigan State +92 points
Texas A&M +70 points
Purdue +67 points
Arizona State +61 points
Southern Methodist +54 points

Duke +53 points
Florida +52 points
Texas Tech +52 points
Xavier +51 points
Florida State +38 points

Gonzaga +37 points
Tennessee +37 points
Oklahoma +34 points
Boston College +30 points
North Carolina State +30 points

Villanova +30 points
Wichita State +29 points
Nebraska +28 points
Arkansas +26 points
Western Kentucky +25 points

Kansas +23 points
Texas +22 points
Seton Hall +21 points
Rutgers +20 points
Washington +20 points

Syracuse got +8 points from the loss to Kansas

The worst team so far is Savannah State with -101 points.
 
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This year I will be again charting how teams have done “against ranked teams”, which is something that always comes up at the end of the year when the arguments over who should be in the NCAA tournament start. As usual, this is not meant to end those arguments, just to give those making them something to look at in forming their opinions. This is just one thing to look at. But I think it’s a big thing.

I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)

Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.

WEEK 6
Oklahoma beat #3 Wichita State 91-83 = +31 points
Rutgers beat #15 Seton Hall 71-65 = +17 points
East Tennessee State lost to #10 Xavier 66-68 = +14 points
Tennessee lost to #7 North Carolina 73-78 = +14 points
Nebraska lost to #13 Kansas 72-73 = +12 points
George Washington lost to #6 U. of Miami 50-59 = +11 points
Oakland lost to #2 Michigan State 73-86 = +11 points
North Carolina beat #20 Tennessee 78-73 = +11 points
Virginia Tech lost to #8 Kentucky 86-93 = +11 points
Vanderbilt lost to #5 Arizona State 64-76 = +9 points
North Dakota lost to #12 Gonzaga 83-89 = +8 points
Oklahoma State beat #19 Florida State 71-70 = +8 points
Clemson beat #22 Florida 71-69 = +5 points
Indiana lost to #18 Notre Dame 77-80 = +5 points
Temple lost to #1 Villanova 67-87 = +5 points
Butler lost to #17 Purdue 67-82 = -6 points
Davidson lost to #16 Virginia 60-80 = -10 points
St. Peter’s lost to #15 Seton Hall 61-84 = -12 points
New Mexico lost to #23 Arizona 73-89 = -13 points
UCLA lost to #25 Cincinnati 63-77 = -13 points
Mississippi State lost to #25 Cincinnati 50-65 = -14 points
Rice lost to #24 Texas Tech 53-73 = -18 points
Texas Southern lost to #21 Baylor 68-99 = -26 points
Kennesaw State lost to #24 Texas Tech 53-82 = -27 points
Savannah State lost to #21 Baylor 86-118 = -27 points
Savannah State lost to #9 Texas A&M 66-113 = -30 points
Wheeling Jesuit lost to #11 West Virginia 50-98 = -33 points
(FYI: Wheeling Jesuit Cardinals - Wikipedia )

Comments: it was exam week for most schools and the ranked teams mostly took the week off, with the action picking up on the weekend. I think the days of getting points from playing Florida may be over. They just aren’t as good as people thought. Savannah State is counting their money. I hope they spend it well.


Top 25

Michigan State +92 points
Texas A&M +70 points
Purdue +67 points
Arizona State +61 points
Southern Methodist +54 points

Duke +53 points
Florida +52 points
Texas Tech +52 points
Xavier +51 points
Florida State +38 points

Gonzaga +37 points
Tennessee +37 points
Oklahoma +34 points
Boston College +30 points
North Carolina State +30 points

Villanova +30 points
Wichita State +29 points
Nebraska +28 points
Arkansas +26 points
Western Kentucky +25 points

Kansas +23 points
Texas +22 points
Seton Hall +21 points
Rutgers +20 points
Washington +20 points

Syracuse got +8 points from the loss to Kansas

The worst team so far is Savannah State with -101 points.
SWC--

You got the ND-IU result backwards. Indiana won by 3, so they should get more than 5 points.
 
SWC--

You got the ND-IU result backwards. Indiana won by 3, so they should get more than 5 points.


Thanks. it's good to know people actually read this stuff.

I think it was the NFL that told be Notre Dame had actually won.)
 

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