SWC75
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This year I will be again charting how teams have done “against ranked teams”, which is something that always comes up at the end of the year when the arguments over who should be in the NCAA tournament start. As usual, this is not meant to end those arguments, just to give those making them something to look at in forming their opinions. This is just one thing to look at. But I think it’s a big thing.
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 7
New Mexico State beat #6 U of Miami 63-54 = +29 points
UCLA beat #7 Kentucky 83-75 = +27 points
Wofford beat #5 North Carolina 79-75 = +25 points
San Diego State beat #12 Gonzaga 72-70 = +16 points
Marshall lost to #9 Xavier 77-81 = +13 points
Northern Kentucky lost to #8 Texas A&M 58-64 = +12 points
Northern Iowa lost to #9 Xavier 67-77 = +7 points
Ohio State lost to #5 North Carolina 72-86 = +7 points
Arkansas State lost to #11 Wichita State 80-89 = +6 points
Florida Gulf Coast lost to #11 Wichita State 65-75 = +5 points
Buffalo lost to #8 Texas A&M 73-89 = +2 points
Hawaii lost to #6 U of Miami 57-75 = +2 points
Hofstra lost to #1 Villanova 71-95 = +1 point
Furman lost to #21 Tennessee 61-66 = 0 points
William & Mary lost to #15 Texas Christian 75-86 = 0 points
Fordham beat #10 West Virginia 69-86 = -1 point
Connecticut lost to #18 Arizona 58-73 = -7 points
Texas-Arlington lost to #25 Creighton 81-90 = -8 points
Texas Southern lost to #15 Texas Christian 72-91 = -8 points
Charleston Southern lost to #24 Florida State 58-69 = -9 points
Manhattan lost to #23 Seton Hall 62-74 = -9 points
Stanford lost to #14 Kansas 54-75 = -9 points
Longwood lost to #3 Arizona State 61-95 = -11 points
Southern University lost to #18 Baylor 60-80 = -12 points
Cleveland State lost to #20 Cincinnati 62-81 = -13 points
Wake Forest lost to #21 Tennessee 60-79 = -14 points
Indiana-Purdue at Indianapolis lost to #12 Gonzaga 71-101 = -16 points
Pacific lost to #3 Arizona State 65-104 = -16 points
Northwestern lost to #17 Oklahoma 78-104 = -17 points
Long Beach State lost to #2 Michigan State 60-102 = -18 points
Savannah State lost to #13 Virginia 47-78 = -18 points
Wagner lost to #23 Seton Hall 68-89 = -18 points
Hampton lost to #13 Virginia 48-82 = -21 points
Houston Baptist lost to #2 Michigan State 62-107 = -21 points
Abilene Christian lost to #21 Texas Tech 47-74 = -22 points
Arkansas-Pine Bluff lost to #20 Cincinnati 49-77 = -22 points
North Dakota State lost to #18 Arizona 53-83 = -22 points
Coppin State lost to #10 West Virginia 38-77 = -23 points
Northwestern Louisiana lost to #17 Oklahoma 68-105 = -28 points
Florida Atlantic lost to #21 Texas Tech 54-90 = -31 points
Omaha lost to #14 Kansas 64-109 = -33 points
Tennessee State lost to #16 Purdue 48-97 = -39 points
Evansville lost to #4 Duke 40-104 = -42 points
Southern Mississippi lost to #24 Florida State 45-98 = -51 points
South Carolina State lost to #25 Creighton 62-116 = -53 points
Comments: The conference season can’t begin too soon. I’m tired of caring what Indiana University Purdue University at Indianapolis does or why they call it that. The Top 25 listed below barely changed. Meanwhile, no ACC team got out of the pre-conference season unscathed. Conference teams have lost 37 games to teams from other leagues, an average of 3 per team. We are not alone….
Top 25
Michigan State +92 points
Texas A&M +70 points
Purdue +67 points
Arizona State +61 points
Southern Methodist +54 points
Duke +53 points
Florida +52 points
Texas Tech +52 points
Xavier +51 points
Florida State +38 points
Gonzaga +37 points
Tennessee +37 points
Oklahoma +34 points
Boston College +30 points
North Carolina State +30 points
Villanova +30 points
Wichita State +29 points
Nebraska +28 points
Arkansas +26 points
Western Kentucky +25 points
Wofford +25 points
Kansas +23 points
Texas +22 points
Seton Hall +21 points
Rutgers +20 points
Washington +20 points
Syracuse got +8 points from the loss to Kansas
The worst team so far is Savannah State with -119 points.
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 7
New Mexico State beat #6 U of Miami 63-54 = +29 points
UCLA beat #7 Kentucky 83-75 = +27 points
Wofford beat #5 North Carolina 79-75 = +25 points
San Diego State beat #12 Gonzaga 72-70 = +16 points
Marshall lost to #9 Xavier 77-81 = +13 points
Northern Kentucky lost to #8 Texas A&M 58-64 = +12 points
Northern Iowa lost to #9 Xavier 67-77 = +7 points
Ohio State lost to #5 North Carolina 72-86 = +7 points
Arkansas State lost to #11 Wichita State 80-89 = +6 points
Florida Gulf Coast lost to #11 Wichita State 65-75 = +5 points
Buffalo lost to #8 Texas A&M 73-89 = +2 points
Hawaii lost to #6 U of Miami 57-75 = +2 points
Hofstra lost to #1 Villanova 71-95 = +1 point
Furman lost to #21 Tennessee 61-66 = 0 points
William & Mary lost to #15 Texas Christian 75-86 = 0 points
Fordham beat #10 West Virginia 69-86 = -1 point
Connecticut lost to #18 Arizona 58-73 = -7 points
Texas-Arlington lost to #25 Creighton 81-90 = -8 points
Texas Southern lost to #15 Texas Christian 72-91 = -8 points
Charleston Southern lost to #24 Florida State 58-69 = -9 points
Manhattan lost to #23 Seton Hall 62-74 = -9 points
Stanford lost to #14 Kansas 54-75 = -9 points
Longwood lost to #3 Arizona State 61-95 = -11 points
Southern University lost to #18 Baylor 60-80 = -12 points
Cleveland State lost to #20 Cincinnati 62-81 = -13 points
Wake Forest lost to #21 Tennessee 60-79 = -14 points
Indiana-Purdue at Indianapolis lost to #12 Gonzaga 71-101 = -16 points
Pacific lost to #3 Arizona State 65-104 = -16 points
Northwestern lost to #17 Oklahoma 78-104 = -17 points
Long Beach State lost to #2 Michigan State 60-102 = -18 points
Savannah State lost to #13 Virginia 47-78 = -18 points
Wagner lost to #23 Seton Hall 68-89 = -18 points
Hampton lost to #13 Virginia 48-82 = -21 points
Houston Baptist lost to #2 Michigan State 62-107 = -21 points
Abilene Christian lost to #21 Texas Tech 47-74 = -22 points
Arkansas-Pine Bluff lost to #20 Cincinnati 49-77 = -22 points
North Dakota State lost to #18 Arizona 53-83 = -22 points
Coppin State lost to #10 West Virginia 38-77 = -23 points
Northwestern Louisiana lost to #17 Oklahoma 68-105 = -28 points
Florida Atlantic lost to #21 Texas Tech 54-90 = -31 points
Omaha lost to #14 Kansas 64-109 = -33 points
Tennessee State lost to #16 Purdue 48-97 = -39 points
Evansville lost to #4 Duke 40-104 = -42 points
Southern Mississippi lost to #24 Florida State 45-98 = -51 points
South Carolina State lost to #25 Creighton 62-116 = -53 points
Comments: The conference season can’t begin too soon. I’m tired of caring what Indiana University Purdue University at Indianapolis does or why they call it that. The Top 25 listed below barely changed. Meanwhile, no ACC team got out of the pre-conference season unscathed. Conference teams have lost 37 games to teams from other leagues, an average of 3 per team. We are not alone….
Top 25
Michigan State +92 points
Texas A&M +70 points
Purdue +67 points
Arizona State +61 points
Southern Methodist +54 points
Duke +53 points
Florida +52 points
Texas Tech +52 points
Xavier +51 points
Florida State +38 points
Gonzaga +37 points
Tennessee +37 points
Oklahoma +34 points
Boston College +30 points
North Carolina State +30 points
Villanova +30 points
Wichita State +29 points
Nebraska +28 points
Arkansas +26 points
Western Kentucky +25 points
Wofford +25 points
Kansas +23 points
Texas +22 points
Seton Hall +21 points
Rutgers +20 points
Washington +20 points
Syracuse got +8 points from the loss to Kansas
The worst team so far is Savannah State with -119 points.