SWC75
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This year I will be again charting how teams have done “against ranked teams”, which is something that always comes up at the end of the year when the arguments over who should be in the NCAA tournament start. As usual, this is not meant to end those arguments, just to give those making them something to look at in forming their opinions. This is just one thing to look at. But I think it’s a big thing.
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 8
Alabama beat #5 Texas A&M 79-57 = +43 points
Butler beat #1 Villanova 101-93 = +33 points
Texas Tech beat #18 Baylor 77-53 = +32 points
Arizona beat #3 Arizona State 84-78 = +29 points
Boston College lost to #9 Virginia 58-59 = +16 points
Marquette lost to #6 Xavier 87-91 = +16 points
DePaul lost to #6 Xavier 72-77 = +15 points
Florida State lost to #4 Duke 93-100 = +15 points
Oklahoma beat #10 Texas Christian 90-89 = +15 points
Oklahoma State lost to #7 West Virginia 79-85 = +13 points
Texas Christian lost to #12 Oklahoma 89-90 = +13 points
Arkansas beat #19 Tennessee 95-93 = +9 points
Duke beat #24 Florida State 100-93 = +9 points
Texas lost to #11 Kansas 86-92 = +9 points
Wake Forest lost to #13 North Carolina 69-73 = +9 points
Connecticut lost to #8 Wichita State 62-72 = +8 points
Middle Tennessee State lost to #15 U of Miami 81-84 = +8 points
DePaul lost to #1 Villanova 85-103 = +7 points
Seton Hall beat #25 Creighton 90-84 = +7 points
Georgia lost to #16 Kentucky 61-66 = +5 points
Arizona State lost to #17 Arizona 78-84 = +3 points
St. John’s lost to #23 Seton Hall 70-75 = -2 points
Creighton lost to #23 Seton Hall 84-90 = -3 points
Pittsburgh lost to #15 U of Miami 53-67 = -3 points
Providence lost to #25 Creighton 64-83 = -18 points
Louisville lost to #16 Kentucky 61-90 = -19 points
Baylor lost to #22 Texas Tech 53-77 = -20 points
Lipscomb lost to #14 Purdue 66-98 = -20 points
Cleveland State lost to #2 Michigan State 61-111 = -26 points
Pacific lost to #20 Gonzaga 48-81 = -27 points
Memphis lost to #21 Cincinnati 48-82 = -29 points
Savannah State lost to #2 Michigan State 52-108 = -32 points
Santa Clara lost to #20 Gonzaga 52-101 = -43 points
Comment: From +43 to -43. Oklahoma’s Trey Young is the phenomenon of the year so far but Alabama has an outstanding freshman guard themselves in Colin Sexton, who is averaging 20.1ppg and has had a 40 point game. But they are so good, that when Sexton had a bad game (3 for 12) and still beat the #5 team in the nation by 22 points. Coach Boeheim has said he’s impressed with that Texas Tech team, which wiped out #18 Baylor by 24 points. They are 12-1 and are second with +84 points. DePaul had a good week, (+22), even though they didn’t win any games. Remember when they were really good? Maybe they will be again. Louisville looked really bad vs. Kentucky, who had not been blowing teams out. Note that Boston College has +46 points.
Top 25
Michigan State +92 points
Texas Tech +84 points
Texas A&M +70 points
Purdue +67 points
Arizona State +64 points
Duke +62 points
Southern Methodist +54 points
Florida State +53 points
Florida +52 points
Xavier +51 points
Alabama +50 points
Oklahoma +49 points
Boston College +46 points
Gonzaga +37 points
Tennessee +37 points
Arkansas +35 points
Arizona +34 points
Texas +31 points
North Carolina State +30 points
Villanova +30 points
Wichita State +29 points
Nebraska +28 points
Seton Hall +28 points
Butler +27 points
Western Kentucky +25 points
Wofford +25 points
Syracuse got +8 points from the loss to Kansas
The worst team so far is Savannah State with -151 points. (But they made plenty of money playing those teams)
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 8
Alabama beat #5 Texas A&M 79-57 = +43 points
Butler beat #1 Villanova 101-93 = +33 points
Texas Tech beat #18 Baylor 77-53 = +32 points
Arizona beat #3 Arizona State 84-78 = +29 points
Boston College lost to #9 Virginia 58-59 = +16 points
Marquette lost to #6 Xavier 87-91 = +16 points
DePaul lost to #6 Xavier 72-77 = +15 points
Florida State lost to #4 Duke 93-100 = +15 points
Oklahoma beat #10 Texas Christian 90-89 = +15 points
Oklahoma State lost to #7 West Virginia 79-85 = +13 points
Texas Christian lost to #12 Oklahoma 89-90 = +13 points
Arkansas beat #19 Tennessee 95-93 = +9 points
Duke beat #24 Florida State 100-93 = +9 points
Texas lost to #11 Kansas 86-92 = +9 points
Wake Forest lost to #13 North Carolina 69-73 = +9 points
Connecticut lost to #8 Wichita State 62-72 = +8 points
Middle Tennessee State lost to #15 U of Miami 81-84 = +8 points
DePaul lost to #1 Villanova 85-103 = +7 points
Seton Hall beat #25 Creighton 90-84 = +7 points
Georgia lost to #16 Kentucky 61-66 = +5 points
Arizona State lost to #17 Arizona 78-84 = +3 points
St. John’s lost to #23 Seton Hall 70-75 = -2 points
Creighton lost to #23 Seton Hall 84-90 = -3 points
Pittsburgh lost to #15 U of Miami 53-67 = -3 points
Providence lost to #25 Creighton 64-83 = -18 points
Louisville lost to #16 Kentucky 61-90 = -19 points
Baylor lost to #22 Texas Tech 53-77 = -20 points
Lipscomb lost to #14 Purdue 66-98 = -20 points
Cleveland State lost to #2 Michigan State 61-111 = -26 points
Pacific lost to #20 Gonzaga 48-81 = -27 points
Memphis lost to #21 Cincinnati 48-82 = -29 points
Savannah State lost to #2 Michigan State 52-108 = -32 points
Santa Clara lost to #20 Gonzaga 52-101 = -43 points
Comment: From +43 to -43. Oklahoma’s Trey Young is the phenomenon of the year so far but Alabama has an outstanding freshman guard themselves in Colin Sexton, who is averaging 20.1ppg and has had a 40 point game. But they are so good, that when Sexton had a bad game (3 for 12) and still beat the #5 team in the nation by 22 points. Coach Boeheim has said he’s impressed with that Texas Tech team, which wiped out #18 Baylor by 24 points. They are 12-1 and are second with +84 points. DePaul had a good week, (+22), even though they didn’t win any games. Remember when they were really good? Maybe they will be again. Louisville looked really bad vs. Kentucky, who had not been blowing teams out. Note that Boston College has +46 points.
Top 25
Michigan State +92 points
Texas Tech +84 points
Texas A&M +70 points
Purdue +67 points
Arizona State +64 points
Duke +62 points
Southern Methodist +54 points
Florida State +53 points
Florida +52 points
Xavier +51 points
Alabama +50 points
Oklahoma +49 points
Boston College +46 points
Gonzaga +37 points
Tennessee +37 points
Arkansas +35 points
Arizona +34 points
Texas +31 points
North Carolina State +30 points
Villanova +30 points
Wichita State +29 points
Nebraska +28 points
Seton Hall +28 points
Butler +27 points
Western Kentucky +25 points
Wofford +25 points
Syracuse got +8 points from the loss to Kansas
The worst team so far is Savannah State with -151 points. (But they made plenty of money playing those teams)
