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Message: [QUOTE="CIL, post: 549599, member: 22"] If anyone can find the magic to make a 5.2 guy run a 4.6 that person would be rich as all hell, and would most likely be a wizard rivaled only by Gandalf. That's taking an NFL guard and giving him WR speed. You do realize the average 40 time for WR's over the last 5 years at the combine is 4.56? I don't think Hoov is saying guys don't need to train. Most NFL lifts are built upon building explosive strength, things like power cleans, deadlifts, etc. And yes, speed schools do exist. And can probably help a guy shave any where from .05 to a tenth of a second off. But at that level, it's teaching straight up 40 time technique such as a very long first step (see Defranco's training) that would get you blasted on the field. [/QUOTE]