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Message: [QUOTE="CuseOnly, post: 549678, member: 2804"] Bnoro - I don't care much about MMA fighters or whether or not they are strong, and MMA fighters probably don't care about a test that is used in the NFL for measuring upper body strength at the underwear Olympics. A dumbell bench press as opposed to a straight bench press is basically the same motion. But you are using many more muscles to control the weight making it a more dangerous lift for most and not a very good test. I am not disagreeing with you necessarily that there aren't better ways to BUILD upper body strength, I am disagreeing with you that there are better ways to test for it. Point being, the NFL uses it to judge upper body strength so guys use it to train and get better at it before the combine to test well. If I am going in to take a sociology exam, I don't study up hard on chemistry. They test using the bench press, so I bench press, pretty simple. [/QUOTE]