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Message: [QUOTE="hungrychuck, post: 2335283, member: 389"] I think Dungey is emerging as something in between a very good and an elite QB. That said, most good defenses can take away both Erv and Ish in a given game. It's why we need other weapons to emerge. Pierce basically arrived yesterday. Butler also broke through. Elmore had his moments, and Strick had one of his best games in Orange. But all that came against a poor defense and may be fool's gold, or Orange if you like. We need the other options to show sustainable danger as threats. [/QUOTE]