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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 1841073, member: 289"] Ok, I had to take another look at this. I noted they had the same number as mine for SU and other schools, but different numbers for others. Rather than re-doing the whole list, I redid the top 5. I decided to brake it down year by year so that any mistakes I made could be pointed out. Here are the historical AP rankings: [URL="http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/national_championships/ap_poll.php?year=1934"]Associated Press Yearly Final Polls[/URL] (The 1934 poll is not included: the season wasn't even over). Here again are the cumulative rankings in the article: [URL="http://collegefootballnews.com/2016/ap-college-football-rankings-greatest-programs-of-all-time"]AP College Football Rankings: Greatest Programs Of All-Time[/URL] The system is to give 25 points for 1st, 24 points for second, etc., down to 1 point for finishing 25th. Here is a quick guide, with the rnaking first and the points second: 1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1 And here is my record of the top 5 teams on my list, the points, their ranking for each year, the points they got for that ranking, and the cumulative points they got form their rankings to that point: ALABAMA 1936 4th = 22 points total: 22 1937 4th = 22 points total: 44 1938 13th = 13 points total: 57 1941 20th = 6 points total: 63 1942 10th = 16 points total: 79 1945 3rd = 23 points total: 102 1947 6th = 20 points total: 122 1950 16th = 10 points total: 132 1952 9th = 17 points total: 149 1953 13th = 13 points total: 162 1959 10th = 16 points total: 178 1960 9th = 17 points total: 195 1961 1st = 25 points total: 220 1962 5th = 21 points total: 241 1963 8th = 18 points total: 259 1964 1st = 25 points total: 284 1965 1st = 25 points total: 309 1966 3rd = 23 points total: 332 1967 8th = 18 points total: 350 1968 17th = 9 points total: 359 1971 4th = 22 points total: 381 1972 7th = 19 points total: 400 1973 4th = 22 points total: 422 1974 5th = 21 points total: 443 1975 3rd = 23 points total: 466 1976 11th = 15 points total: 481 1977 2nd = 24 points total: 505 1978 1st = 25 points total: 530 1979 1st = 25 points total: 555 1980 6th = 20 points total: 575 1981 7th = 19 points total: 594 1983 15th = 11 points total: 605 1985 13th = 13 points total: 618 1986 9th = 17 points total: 635 1988 17th = 9 points total: 644 1989 9th = 17 points total: 661 1991 5th = 21 points total: 682 1992 1st = 25 points total: 707 1993 14th = 12 points total: 719 1994 5th = 21 points total: 740 1995 21st = 5 points total: 745 1996 11th = 15 points total: 760 1999 8th = 18 points total: 778 2002 11th = 15 points total: 793 2005 8th = 18 points total: 811 2008 6th = 20 points total: 831 2009 1st = 25 points total: 856 2010 10th = 16 points total: 872 2011 1st = 25 points total: 897 2012 1st = 25 points total: 922 2013 7th = 19 points total: 941 2014 4th = 22 points total: 963 2015 1st = 25 points total: 988 OKLAHOMA 1938 4th = 22 points total: 22 1939 19th = 6 points total: 28 1946 14th = 12 points total: 40 1947 16th = 10 points total: 50 1948 5th = 21 points total: 71 1949 2nd = 24 points total: 95 1950 1st = 25 points total: 120 1951 10th = 16 points total: 136 1952 4th = 22 points total: 158 1953 4th = 22 points total: 180 1954 3rd = 23 points total: 203 1955 1st = 25 points total: 228 1956 1st = 25 points total: 253 1957 4th = 22 points total: 275 1958 5th = 21 points total: 296 1959 15th = 11 points total: 307 1962 8th = 18 points total: 325 1963 10th = 16 points total: 341 1967 8th = 18 points total: 359 1968 11th = 15 points total: 374 1970 20th = 6 points total: 380 1971 2ND = 24 points total: 404 1972 2nd = 24 points total: 428 1973 3rd = 23 points total: 451 1974 1st = 25 points total: 476 1975 1st = 25 points total: 501 1976 5th = 21 points total: 522 1977 7th = 19 points total: 541 1978 3rd = 23 points total: 564 1979 3rd = 23 points total: 587 1980 3rd = 23 points total: 610 1981 20th = 6 points total: 616 1982 16th = 10 points total: 626 1984 6th = 20 points total: 646 1985 1st = 25 points total: 671 1986 3rd = 23 points total: 694 1987 3rd = 23 points total: 717 1988 14th = 12 points total: 729 1990 17th = 9 points total: 738 1991 16th = 10 points total: 748 1993 17th = 9 points total: 757 2000 1st = 25 points total: 782 2001 6th = 20 points total: 802 2002 5th = 21 points total: 823 2003 3rd = 23 points total: 846 2004 3rd = 23 points total: 869 2005 22nd = 4 points total: 873 2006 11th = 15 points total: 888 2007 8th = 18 points total: 906 2008 5th = 21 points total: 927 2010 6th = 20 points total: 947 2011 16th = 10 points total: 957 2012 15th = 11 points total: 968 2013 6th = 20 points total: 988 2015 5th = 21 points total: 1009 MICHIGAN 1938 16th = 10 points total: 10 1939 20th = 6 points total: 16 1940 3rd = 23 points total: 39 1941 5th = 21 points total: 60 1942 9th = 17 points total: 77 1943 3rd = 23 points total: 100 1944 8th = 18 points total: 118 1945 6th = 20 points total: 138 1946 6th = 20 points total: 158 1947 2nd = 24 points total: 182 1948 1st = 25 points total: 207 1949 7th = 19 points total: 226 1950 9th = 17 points total: 243 1953 20th = 6 points total: 249 1954 15th = 11 points total: 260 1955 14th = 12 points total: 272 1956 7th = 19 points total: 291 1964 4th = 22 points total: 313 1968 12th = 14 points total: 327 1969 9th = 17 points total: 344 1970 9th = 17 points total: 361 1971 6th = 20 points total: 381 1972 6th = 20 points total: 401 1973 6th = 20 points total: 421 1974 3rd = 23 points total: 444 1975 8th = 18 points total: 462 1976 3rd = 23 points total: 485 1977 9th = 17 points total: 502 1978 5th = 21 points total: 523 1979 18th = 8 points total: 531 1980 4th = 22 points total: 553 1981 12th = 14 points total: 567 1983 8th = 18 points total: 585 1985 2nd = 24 points total: 609 1986 8th = 18 points total: 627 1987 19th = 7 points total: 634 1988 4th = 22 points total: 656 1989 7th = 19 points total: 675 1990 7th = 19 points total: 694 1991 6th = 20 points total: 714 1992 5th = 21 points total: 735 1993 21st = 4 points total: 739 1994 12th = 14 points total: 753 1995 17th = 9 points total: 762 1996 20th = 6 points total: 771 1997 1st = 25 points total: 796 1998 12th = 14 points total: 810 1999 5th = 21 points total: 831 2000 11th = 15 points total: 846 2001 20th = 6 points total: 852 2002 9th = 17 points total: 869 2003 6th = 20 points total: 889 2004 14th = 12 points total: 901 2006 8th = 18 points total: 919 2007 18th = 8 points total: 927 2011 12th = 14 points total: 941 2012 24th = 2 points total: 943 2015 12th = 14 points total: 957 OHIO STATE 1937 13th = 13 points total: 13 1939 15th = 11 points total: 24 1941 13th = 13 points total: 37 1942 1st = 25 points total: 62 1944 2nd = 24 points total: 86 1945 12th = 14 points total: 100 1949 6th = 20 points total: 120 1950 14th = 12 points total: 132 1952 17th = 9 points total: 141 1954 1st = 25 points total: 166 1955 5th = 21 points total: 187 1956 15th = 11 points total: 198 1957 2nd = 24 points total: 222 1958 8th = 18 points total: 240 1960 8th = 18 points total: 258 1961 2nd = 24 points total: 282 1964 9th = 17 points total: 299 1968 1st = 25 points total: 324 1969 4th = 22 points total: 346 1970 5th = 21 points total: 367 1972 9th = 17 points total: 384 1973 2nd = 24 points total: 408 1974 4th = 22 points total: 430 1975 4th = 22 points total: 452 1976 6th = 20 points total: 472 1977 11th = 15 points total: 487 1979 4th = 22 points total: 509 1980 15th = 11 points total: 520 1981 15th = 11 points total: 531 1982 12th = 14 points total: 545 1983 9th = 17 points total: 562 1985 14th = 12 points total: 574 1986 7th = 19 points total: 593 1989 24th = 2 points total: 595 1992 18th = 8 points total: 603 1993 11th = 15 points total: 618 1994 14th = 12 points total: 630 1995 6th = 20 points total: 650 1996 2nd = 24 points total: 674 1997 12th = 14 points total: 688 1998 2nd = 24 points total: 712 2002 1st = 25 points total: 737 2003 4th = 22 points total: 759 2004 20th = 6 points total: 765 2005 4th = 22 points total: 787 2006 2nd = 24 points total: 811 2007 5th = 21 points total: 832 2008 9th = 17 points total: 849 2009 5th = 21 points total: 870 2010 5th = 21 points total: 891 2012 3rd = 23 points total: 914 2013 12th = 14 points total: 928 2014 1st = 25 points total: 953 2015 4th = 22 points total: 975 NOTRE DAME 1936 8th = 18 points total: 18 1937 9th = 17 points total: 35 1938 5th = 21 points total: 56 1939 13th = 13 points total: 69 1941 3rd = 23 points total: 92 1942 6th = 20 points total: 112 1943 1st = 25 points total: 137 1944 9th = 17 points total: 154 1945 5th = 21 points total: 175 1946 1st = 25 points total: 200 1947 1st = 25 points total: 225 1948 2nd = 24 points total: 249 1949 1st = 25 points total: 274 1952 3rd = 23 points total: 297 1953 2nd = 24 points total: 321 1954 4th = 22 points total: 343 1955 9th = 17 points total: 360 1958 17th = 9 points total: 369 1959 17th = 9 points total: 378 1964 3rd = 23 points total: 401 1965 9th = 17 points total: 418 1966 1st = 25 points total: 443 1967 5th = 21 points total: 464 1968 5th = 21 points total: 485 1969 5th = 21 points total: 506 1970 2nd = 24 points total: 530 1971 13th = 13 points total: 543 1972 14th = 12 points total: 555 1973 1st = 25 points total: 580 1974 6th = 20 points total: 600 1976 12th = 14 points total: 614 1977 1st = 25 points total: 639 1978 7th = 19 points total: 658 1980 9th = 17 points total: 675 1987 17th = 9 points total: 684 1988 1st = 25 points total: 709 1989 2nd = 24 points total: 733 1990 6th = 20 points total: 753 1991 13th = 13 points total: 766 1992 4th = 22 points total: 788 1993 2nd = 24 points total: 812 1994 11th = 15 points total: 827 1996 19th = 6 points total: 833 1998 22nd = 4 points total: 837 2000 15th = 11 points total: 848 2002 17th = 9 points total: 856 2005 9th = 17 points total: 873 2006 17th = 9 points total: 882 2012 4th = 22 points total: 904 2013 20th = 6 points total: 910 2015 11th = 15 points total: 925 Here are my original numbers for these teams, the numbers in the article and the numbers I have posted above: Alabama 1024 989 988 Oklahoma 1015 1116 1009 Michigan 957 957 957 Ohio State 951 988 975 Notre Dame 940 939 925 If the numbers above, (and in the third column) are correct, I was off by 36 points on Alabama, 6 points on Oklahoma, 24 points on Ohio State and 15 points on Notre Dame, a total of 71 points off. But the article is off by 1 point on Alabama, 107 on Oklahoma, 13 on Ohio State and 14 on Notre Dame, a total of 135 points. Why all three studies gave Michigan the exact same number of points but were off for everyone else, I don't know. But if the third column is correct, I was closer to it than the article, because they were so far off on Oklahoma. [/QUOTE]

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