An ACC/SEC football challenge?

[Orangeyes]

http://mrsec.com/2014/06/accsec-football-challenge-solve-lot-problems/

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[SmilinBob]

Not into this regarding football. Just schedule strong OOC with no need to do this and if conferences have these tie ins it'll give less freedom to play other conferences outside of the SEC especially if the Big 10 and PAC do the same. Plus, it would give us even less of a sample size to be able to evaluate teams when it comes to the playoffs unless they go to a conference winner system.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

Agree with Bob. FSU v. Florida, GT v. Georgia and Clemson v. South Carolina might make for great TV rivalry games. Pitt v. Tennessee, BC v. Ole Miss and Syracuse v. Missouri less so. I'd rather see us build our SOS against Penn State, Notre Dame, Michigan or Maryland.

 

[HtownOrange]

I am OK with an ACC/SEC Challenge as the only two P5 conferences with 8 conference games are the two involved. The other P5 conferences still must schedule within their three remaining games a P5 team, thus 10 games against P5 teams is probable, especially if a team wants a shot at the playoffs where SOS is at issue. Rebuilding teams would not be forced to play the 10th P5 game but they would be less likely to get a shot at the playoffs.

Ex: Assume Michigan plays its 9 conference games and picks up Oklahoma in a one-off, made for TV special with a MAC team and a 1AA body bag game while Clemson plays its 8 conference games plus its annual South Carolina games but schedules a 1AA body bag game, a weak Sun Belt conference and a mediocre CUSA/AAC game. If the two are vying for the last spot in the playoffs and have the same record with comparable losses, Michigan will get selected over Clemson because of the SOS.

Note: Playing 10 P5 games also makes a delineation between the P5 and the remaining conferences without breaking away from the NCAA or creating a new division.

 

[BlazeOrange]

I am OK with an ACC/SEC Challenge as the only two P5 conferences with 8 conference games are the two involved. The other P5 conferences still must schedule within their three remaining games a P5 team, thus 10 games against P5 teams is probable, especially if a team wants a shot at the playoffs where SOS is at issue. Rebuilding teams would not be forced to play the 10th P5 game but they would be less likely to get a shot at the playoffs.

That makes sense, but don't the SOS calculations take a teams opponents opponents into account? If so, a rebuilding ACC team that opts for an easier OOC schedule could hurt their conference mates playoff chances.

 

[HtownOrange]

That makes sense, but don't the SOS calculations take a teams opponents opponents into account? If so, a rebuilding ACC team that opts for an easier OOC schedule could hurt their conference mates playoff chances.

Possibly, which is why I favor 10 P5 games, but would only mandate 9 via the conference, like the SEC does (8 conference + 1 P5). The team must do what they have to do to rebuild and the conference needs to pressure the weak teams (Rutgers, VATech, NCState). Just an opinion, I am not dogmatic about it, but I really like our schedules most years. And with SS at the helm, I think we will be a conference contender often.

 

[KaiserUEO]

i just like the fact that they moved the LSU game to Giants Stadium.

its about time somebody reported that fact.

 

[NashvilleOrange]

Sounds good to me. Stick it to the B1G in basketball and move to an ACC-SEC challenge for that as well.

 

[orange79]

i just like the fact that they moved the LSU game to Giants Stadium.

its about time somebody reported that fact.

Meltdown in 3...2...1...

 

[KaiserUEO]

Meltdown in 3...2...1...

the other meltdown is here it is 6/10 and the Boss didnt play MSG, Barclays, Brendan Byrne or the Rock and hasnt announced any late Summer/early Fall Giants Stadium dates.

What????!!!!!

 

[cuseguy]

the other meltdown is here it is 6/10 and the Boss didnt play MSG, Barclays, Brendan Byrne or the Rock and hasnt announced any late Summer/early Fall Giants Stadium dates. What????!!!!!

And, sadly, doesn't appear he will.

 

[Rocco]

i just like the fact that they moved the LSU game to Giants Stadium.

its about time somebody reported that fact.

It's hypothetical. Game is scheduled to be played at the Dome.

 

[Frozen]

It's hypothetical. Game is scheduled to be played at the Dome.

 

[Full_Rebar]

Seems like this would benefit ESPN, so I'd expect to see it happen once they find a title sponsor.

 

[Rocco]

 

[SU68]

I'm not sure what the SEC would gain from a challenge with the ACC. They are generally recognized as the best/strongest conference and any OOC loss is considered as a terrible thing. It would be fun to watch though.

 

[TheCusian]

I'm not sure what the SEC would gain from a challenge with the ACC. They are generally recognized as the best/strongest conference and any OOC loss is considered as a terrible thing. It would be fun to watch though.

They are being forced to by the playoff and 8 game schedule. You're right that SEC losses could benefit the ACC more than the reverse.

 

[WoadBlue]

Sounds good to me. Stick it to the B1G in basketball and move to an ACC-SEC challenge for that as well.

It is always good to see fan of an ACC school living in TN who has good sense.

I say dump the Big Ten in basketball and have a Challenge with the SEC, one that is tied to something similar in football and baseball.

SEC baseball easily has the largest TV fan base (and the largest traveling fan base). The more we play the SEC in baseball, the more games we have for the ACC network that will draw very well.

They are being forced to by the playoff and 8 game schedule. You're right that SEC losses could benefit the ACC more than the reverse.

That is true, but the SEC needs something to jump start its basketball. An ACC-SEC Challenge would do that far better than anything else. Also, the SEC needs to have across rage league tough, or moderately tough, OOC schedules, and it needs to do that without inviting into the southeast a new league.

If the SEC starts playing the Big Ten often in football, more BT teams probably will recruit the southeast better, which would hurt the SEC. Because the ACC is already entrenched in the southeast, doubling or tripling the number of games against us is not going mean recruits leaving the region and its conferences.

The same logic works for baseball.

 

[Btstimpy]

It is always good to see fan of an ACC school living in TN who has good sense.

I say dump the Big Ten in basketball and have a Challenge with the SEC, one that is tied to something similar in football and baseball.

SEC baseball easily has the largest TV fan base (and the largest traveling fan base). The more we play the SEC in baseball, the more games we have for the ACC network that will draw very well.



That is true, but the SEC needs something to jump start its basketball. An ACC-SEC Challenge would do that far better than anything else. Also, the SEC needs to have across rage league tough, or moderately tough, OOC schedules, and it needs to do that without inviting into the southeast a new league.

If the SEC starts playing the Big Ten often in football, more BT teams probably will recruit the southeast better, which would hurt the SEC. Because the ACC is already entrenched in the southeast, doubling or tripling the number of games against us is not going mean recruits leaving the region and its conferences.

The same logic works for baseball.

I agree with playing the SEC more. It will help establish more content for the conference networks, SEC and hopefully ACC. Playing the SEC in football and baseball would really help the ACC. And the SEC playing the ACC in basketball will help the SEC. The SEC is top heavy in basketball with Kentucky, Florida, and Tennessee. But other programs have been good over the years. Playing the SEC more in baseball during the regular season would be awesome. We see them often in the NCAA CWS, but it would be great during the year too.