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Message: [QUOTE="zibby, post: 30610, member: 543"] Define "thrive." Temple has NEVER beaten a MAC team with a winning record. They're real good at beating up on the bad teams in the MAC, but whenever they have an opportunity to take on one of the better teams in the MAC, they choke. And even if they do manage to beat Toledo on Saturday, wait until Chester Stewart graduates before you say Temple is "thriving." Jersey State has proved that its time with an elite running back was an anomaly. After Ray Rice left, they went right back to sucking. [/QUOTE]