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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 1166054, member: 4809"] i know that you you have never appreciated the state of the program since RUTGERS made their presence known!!!you sir, have been denial of that since day one, much to the detriment of the orangemen. i no longer have the tolerance for that arrogance, i don't think you appreciate the damage that the ARROGANCE and LACK OF VISION has added . take this for what it is ----review your own history--.i suggest that you step back and look at the here and now, dwelling our past glory is fruitless. i will stop here. there is way to much to respond to. you sir have not appreciate the state of the program for the past 10 yrs and have --pissed me off [/QUOTE]