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[QUOTE="hplare, post: 5452329, member: 545"]
LOL because I'm not sure if you were including me in that category.  In any event,  The Browns have always had an interesting history.  As you may well know, The franchise began as part of a newly formed league in competition with the NFL.  Paul Brown the co-owner and first coach had had success at Ohio State and especially with a WWII Great Lakes naval team.  Several former players  from both were on the first Brown teams.

When the new league fell apart, the Browns joined the NFL and dominated for some time.  Then came the AFL and in the eventual merger with the NFL.  At that time the Browns and the Steelers were moved to the newly reorganized AFL, a fact that enraged Giant fans who were opposed to losing their long time rivalry with both.  If you were around to witnessed the  duels between Jim Brown and Sam Huff the Giant MLB you'd understand why.

It's been long forgotten , but to quell the protest the league promised that the Giants would always annually play the Steelers and Browns.  So much for promises.

In the end, the Steelers prospered in The AFL and the Browns dominance slowly faded.  One can only imaging what might have been had Ernie lived to play

A last thought .  Service teams during both WWII and the Korean war have always been powerful.  The WWII teams were loaded with College All-Americans.  There's an interest book called "The Mosquito Bowl" about a game involving college players that took place on Guadalcanal during the war.

In 1952 SU played a Bolling Field Airforce team in the first game of the season, in what many consider would be a pushover.  Except Bolling field was an all-star college team, quarterbacked by All America and future Redskin, Al Dorow.  It was close, but we didn't  win.
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