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Message: [QUOTE="djcon57, post: 4162470, member: 62"] One other note...in the 10 years, we haven’t had one player have below a -10 on DBR, until this year in Jimmy. im certainly not suggesting he not play or not start or not have the most minutes at forward even... I am suggesting I don’t understand how we see so many posts suggesting Benny “can’t play because he hurts the offense”, yet not seeing the counter that Jimmy “can’t play because he hurts the defense” other than the obvious in that defensive stats other than steals or blocks aren’t in your standard box scores. [/QUOTE]