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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 4996437, member: 1969"] Some agreement to your comment, but just want to add some context to my initial point. 1. They have been pretty punishing to bad losses recently - Clemson and Rutgers last year as examples. 2, What makes Syracuse, Kansas St and Ole Miss (in the 70's this year) interesting this yearis that they have an acceptable amount of Q1 and Q2 Wins (if we beat Clemson) but no bad losses. Typically teams in the 70's will have some clear wart in terms of quality wins or bad losses. And this year there are 3 teams that could have arguably "enough" wins, and no real bad losses. 3. Regarding "w" on the second day. For me it depends. :ooking at teams in the 11-14 range potentially -- if we can add a Q2 win over Miami or Virginia Tech that is good. But there is also a good chance we play 4 of the other teams from the first day who would be Q3. . I would rather avoid than waste our energy on those 4 teams. [/QUOTE]