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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 1954933, member: 668"] Who's dwelling? Since it's your own choice of word, it appears that you are the one dwelling. I only stated a fact...it is what it is...fact. How far have we come? We won 4 games last year, and barring a major upset in the last two games, we'll end up with 4 wins again...same as last year. So, it's a bit premature to suggest we have already come a far way...I'll wait to see the results [U]ON[/U] the field. That being said, I love Coach Babers and I do think we are headed in the right direction, and I'm quite optimistic and excited about what the future holds for the SU football program. However, at the end of the day, results is what matters most. You are what your record says you are...objectively/factually that is. [/QUOTE]