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Message: [QUOTE="sufan59, post: 5533762, member: 8789"] I get what you mean obviously the cherry on top is the winning, but the experience should hold a lot of value as well. Good things tend to happen for programs more often than not that take as much value in the experience of going to games, experiencing game day, and following the sport. As you basically allude to we have a long way to go, but part of the culture rebuild Fran talks about I’m sure extends to building sustainable unconditional support for the program. Winning is the easiest way to get there, but fans also need to remain engaged in the good times and bad times. I think we have the right coach that a little extra push right now will lead to a very good run of good times. But who am I to say, they got me in years ago, I can’t relate too much to the very casual fair weather fan, I’m not sure what else it would take for someone to be unconditionally engaged in the program one way or another other than winning. [/QUOTE]