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[QUOTE="KevMonstah, post: 440512, member: 327"]
I don't think you can discount how last year's finish impacted this recruiting class either.  Having won the Pinstripe Bowl in 2010, and going from 4-8 to 8-5, I think they were aiming for a higher star level of recruits.  Looking ahead to a smaller class, and the improving record, they probably could have filled it with the same level talent they'd been getting, but aimed higher.  Then they gagged away a 5-2 start, and probably lost plenty of interested kids, then had to work to get back in with others.  Go through this year, with big improvements, but it's probably hard to get back in with kids you might've passed over once, so you need to go looking where you can to fill up.  There's no problem with JC kids; I think when VaTech started their climb, they used lots of them, then got to where they were an upper level program, and could become more choosy.  I'm hoping SU can get to that point again.
 
And it probably does matter that the records went 4-8, 8-5, 5-7, now 7-5 with a bowl pending instead of 4-8, 5-7, 8-5, 7-5 (plus bowl).  You could sell a kid on one down year after a bowl if it hadn't been preceded by the Grob era. 
 
Kev
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