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Message: [QUOTE="Zelda Zonk, post: 145753, member: 966"] Nowhere in anything i've written has there been the implication that assistant coaches don't do anything and aren't valuable. There's no bias. As i've said earlier, i've had a fundamental disagreement with the acclaim Fine has received since i was a student at SU. You're getting ridiculous now. How long is "very long?" My connection to SU began when i was a freshman in '85. I hope that's long enough to have some familiarity with the program. Back then, we weren't an exclusively 'zone' team, so i'd assert i've been 'with' SU from the beginning of 'this' zone. How old are [I]you[/I]? Nowhere, in anything i've written has been the implication that ANY players didn't improve. It shows a clear lack of understanding of language to suggest that's on my platform. To the contrary. I'm not sure what you've been reading. You're certainly not reading it well/properly. The argument has become convoluted. Since you seem to need this: Yes, Bernie Fine contributed to Fab's development. So, if you want to eliminate the THOUGHT associated with that statement, let's all agree that Fine did some stuff, and Fab benefited from that stuff. My argument concerned whether or not he "deserves credit" for it. And, to put this more simply, let's make a baseball analogy. WAR / Wins Above Replacement. A common/interesting metric by which players are evaluated against an 'average' player's production. For me, to give someone "credit" for something, that person would have to have performed above an average or a standard. My argument with this 'credit' business is that [B]there is no way to determine whether or not Fine was better or worse than average as a coach[/B]. We've been at this for four pages and still no one has offered any metric or evidence to support that Fine is/was better than any other 'big man' coach. [/QUOTE]

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