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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 788173, member: 622"] We were all newbies in our current and past positions. We will be newbies in our future positions. Part of being new to a position is making mistakes and learning from them. No one is excusing mistakes. We all want better coaching. SOme of us realize teh situation that Gross, Shafer and teh Orange were in and accept that the circumstances were not the best. If HCSS decides to fire someone, then that is his decision. If these guys don't show improvement over time, then I would agree that they need to be fired, but enough time has not passed, only seven games. We are 3-4 and there is no need to be standing on a ledge ready to jump. [/QUOTE]