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Message: [QUOTE="wooddoc, post: 5221707, member: 5496"] AP 25? Nah... I'm not even convinced of the top 5, throw in the whole mob. Even with the NIL, and what a load of ---- that is, this is still college football. Were there "upsets," this weekend, or were they just a matter of college ball? Maybe the NIL has contributed somewhat, but these "entanglements" have been going on since I've been around. To be honest, I haven't really put much stock in either of these polls - especially the AP - for a long time, other than at a glance. Beside all that, who would know better; coaches or sportswriters? I mean... you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours is still in play, right? How dare I expel some flatulence in the midst of these towering, "holy" institutions? I just did. [/QUOTE]