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Message: [QUOTE="RF2044, post: 2143982, member: 40"] Feels about right to me. We're on the next tier, below the true blue blood programs. I'd argue that UCLA is too high -- their glory era was 40 years ago -- and that Kansas is too low. I feel that Kansas squarely belongs on the top tier. UCLA belongs numerous rungs down the ladder IMO, even though they won so many championships. That's a sign that the evaluative criteria applied to everyone gets "gamed" by the one factor in which they excel. Also surprised to see Cincinnati in the top 10. I get that they had a rich history, as well, but they certainly don't rate when it comes to looking at the top programs of the last 25 years+. [/QUOTE]