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Message: [QUOTE="Stern, post: 1559246, member: 527"] a) Any first year coach would get a free pass if he has 11 games on the road b) SU's fan base is no different than any other fan base in the country. Heck, LSU fans are calling for Les Miles to be let go. Guy only wins 9 or 10 games every year and goes to a major bowl. Miami's fan base have been flying banners over the stadium voicing their displeasure for years to get Golden fired till it finally happened. SU fans have sat through 10-15 years of utter garbage, the fact SU still has a loyal die-hard following the size it does goes to show how the SU fans aren't bad. [/QUOTE]