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Message: [QUOTE="HOFCeluck, post: 1560045"] I guess at this point I don't know what you guys see in him. He hasn't shown that he can make good decisions at this level. He hasn't even shown that he can LEARN how to coach at this level...given he made the same mistakes vs Pitt and FSU in consecutive weeks. So he's upgrading the talent...and then what? What's his ceiling? Six, maybe seven wins? He's a great guy, and I feel for him. But I don't think it's hard to see past the injury/youth excuses to see what kind of HC he is. And FTR I was firmly in his corner until the FSU game. eta... You can't just keep him for another year. It's extend him or fire. [/QUOTE]