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Message: [QUOTE="JLine, post: 1181685, member: 1683"] Our coaching is that bad, yes. NCSU is not a better team than us, we gave them the game. Though, I guess that means they are better since coaching is a big part but we had the game won. If Shafer stays, than time to get someone here who can call plays, make adjustments and go with the flow of the game. We drive down with ease then they call a play bound to fail out of nowhere. McDonald situation is already ruined, he's gone. Why not start over now before we give Shaf another year and end up where we were before Marrone got us back on track. If he stays, he needs help. He's clearly lost and not getting any better, just doesn't have the intangibles to be a head coach. [/QUOTE]