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Message: [QUOTE="omniorange, post: 288829, member: 636"] Not disagreeing with that, but the main reason why that is the case is because the Big 12 (which has only been in existence since 1996) had Nebraska in addition to Colorado and K-State pick up the slack when UT and OU struggled mightily in the 90s. A case could be made that FSU and Miami have been better together than UT and OU during their initial joining together. Now who picks up the slack if they can't get FSU and Clemson? Who's to say that they won't stumble again or that Miami and FSU won't rise again? If no ACC teams leave, in a decade's time who is willing to bet the Big 12 will still be viewed as a stronger football conference than the ACC? It's all a feeling out process and I believe the pendulum is starting to swing in the ACC's direction if they can survive the next two years without losing any teams. Cheers, Neil [/QUOTE]