As bad as our current starting backcourt is, our interior def and rebounding is worse

[Cuse_NYC]

If you get the ball anywhere in the paint it’s a layup. Not one player can block a shot. And other than Donnie, no one even attempts to rebound. There’s times I wonder if we’ll catch the ball if it lands in our hands. Help.

 

[NineOneSeven]

I disagree about the rebounding. All things considered the rebounding has been okay I think! People remember when we had Jimmy and Cole rebounding out of the zone? How soon we forget..

The interior D, sure. Again… Lampkin had like 5 blocks all of last season.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

I disagree about the rebounding. All things considered the rebounding has been okay I think! People remember when we had Jimmy and Cole rebounding out of the zone? How soon we forget..

The interior D, sure. Again… Lampkin had like 5 blocks all of last season.

Not to be a jerk, but we don’t even jump for rebounds. Some even hit the floor.

 

[dasher]

I disagree about the rebounding. All things considered the rebounding has been okay I think! People remember when we had Jimmy and Cole rebounding out of the zone? How soon we forget..

The interior D, sure. Again… Lampkin had like 5 blocks all of last season.

Hopefully there is a lesson learned. Spend the money on a pt guard.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Donnie didn’t have a single offensive rebound today. That’s hard to believe with his jumping ability. He needs to stick his nose in the mix and go and get the ball. His defensive rebounding is ok.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Donnie didn’t have a single offensive rebound today. That’s hard to believe with his jumping ability. He needs to stick his nose in the mix and go and get the ball. His defensive rebounding is ok.

Yeah and he had 20/11.

Lol. What are we talking about here. Nuts.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Not to be a jerk, but we don’t even jump for rebounds. Some even hit the floor.

Lol I disagree.

 

[Jake]

Nothing is worse than our PG play. Nothing.

 

[Jasoncuse]

Nothing is worse than our PG play. Nothing.

Nothing is? Maybe…

3 point shooting?
Defense?
Coaching?

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

We actually rebound well.

Don't want to pile on but it all comes down to Carlos getting abused but playing 35 mpg.

 

[RF2044]

Hopefully there is a lesson learned. Spend the money on a pt guard.

Nothing is worse than our PG play. Nothing.

Absolutely spot on. Music to my ears.

Incredible that two of the coaches on staff are former program point guards, and yet their assessment of lead guards has been so off base, and their ability to land quality 1's has been so subpar.

 

[elimunelson]

We actually rebound well.

Don't want to pile on but it all comes down to Carlos getting abused but playing 35 mpg.

Easier out of man vs zone. When the other team rarely misses we can get boards

 

[IthacaMatt]

Donnie didn’t have a single offensive rebound today. That’s hard to believe with his jumping ability. He needs to stick his nose in the mix and go and get the ball. His defensive rebounding is ok.

He's not strong or tough. Athletic as hell, great frame, can hit the 3. But he has to toughen up.

 

[MikeSU02]

He's not strong or tough. Athletic as hell, great frame, can hit the 3. But he has to toughen up.

He's our leading rebounder by two boards a game.

The reason he doesn't get more O boards vs Lampkin is because of where he is located on the court, not his toughness.

Last game he hit the tough toughest shots in traffic that I've seen all year from anyone on this team against Notre Dame.

 

[Hopkins16]

Donnie rebounds well enough for a lanky freshman but needs to get stronger. He is not physically ready for the NBA but like most players before him, will jump if his potential alone will get him drafted.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

He's our leading rebounder by two boards a game.

The reason he doesn't get more O boards vs Lampkin is because of where he is located on the court, not his toughness.

Last game he hit the tough toughest shots in traffic that I've seen all year from anyone on this team against Notre Dame.

Yeah I think people are missing that talent really matters in basketball.

Freeman isn't a polished rebounder yet and he's still grabbing boards like crazy.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Yeah I think people are missing that talent really matters in basketball.

Freeman isn't a polished rebounder yet and he's still grabbing boards like crazy.

Freeman productivity is like #15 on the list for me of concerns. He's been really solid.

 

[IthacaMatt]

He's our leading rebounder by two boards a game.

The reason he doesn't get more O boards vs Lampkin is because of where he is located on the court, not his toughness.

Last game he hit the tough toughest shots in traffic that I've seen all year from anyone on this team against Notre Dame.

I'm just going to disagree. Donnie gets balls ripped out of his hands at least 3 times a game. Getting position against someone boxing you out is definitely another indication of toughness, or where it may be lacking. Offensive shot making skill is not toughness.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I'm just going to disagree. Donnie gets balls ripped out of his hands at least 3 times a game. Getting position against someone boxing you out is definitely another indication of toughness, or where it may be lacking. Offensive shot making skill is not toughness.

So let's say you're right that Freeman is losing 3 rebounds a game. People are forgetting that's 3 more rebounds that other guys on the team aren't even battling for. People had the same critique of Jesse when he started getting regular minutes. Yes, it's not ideal, but Freeman having the talent to even get to those, even if he isn't winning them, is a better situation than anyone else on the roster brings.

Plus, the expectation coming into the season wasn't that Freeman was even going to be as good on the boards than he has been. If anything he's overperforming. Why stress about that when we have some BIG issues (defense, point guard play, outside shooting sucks) etc.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

If you get the ball anywhere in the paint it’s a layup. Not one player can block a shot. And other than Donnie, no one even attempts to rebound. There’s times I wonder if we’ll catch the ball if it lands in our hands. Help.

Some offensive rebounds by Albany last night were the result of absolute crazy bounces off the rim. We had guys in good spots, but then the ball just went in a weird position.
Most of us have played, been ready for a rebound, and the ball hits the rim weird and goes someplace else.
That said, we should do better, overall.

 

[upperdeck]

I agree. At least last night we had guys in spots on defense to get the rebounds but they kept bouncing into bad location.

On offense I have no idea what we are thinking. why do many times not one person even attacks as the shot goes up. We can't be that worried about transition.

 

[littlereg]

He's our leading rebounder by two boards a game.

The reason he doesn't get more O boards vs Lampkin is because of where he is located on the court, not his toughness.

Last game he hit the tough toughest shots in traffic that I've seen all year from anyone on this team against Notre Dame.

Bingo! Harder to get those free O boards off our terrible 3pt shooters clunking if you’re on or near the perimeter like Donnie compared to Eddie who is typically camped underneath the rim.

 

[tee1222]

We had 1 steal last night....ONE?
Add 3 blocks.

That's not how we used to play defense. Used to thrive on 7-8 blocks, similar amount of steals per game as a team.

I know it's a different defense, but they need to contest shots better. And causing turnovers or outright steals usually results in better shot selection when they get out on the break.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

We had 1 steal last night...ONE?
Add 3 blocks.

That's not how we used to play defense. Used to thrive on 7-8 blocks, similar amount of steals per game as a team.

I know it's a different defense, but they need to contest shots better. And causing turnovers or outright steals usually results in better shot selection when they get out on the break.

Yeah part of the issue and difference from last year is that we were so much better at creating chaos.

Now we don't so much as "defend" as seem to have players on the court while the other team is on offense.

 

[jdubs30]

Yeah part of the issue and difference from last year is that we were so much better at creating chaos.

Now we don't so much as "defend" as seem to have players on the court while the other team is on offense.

We don’t have any shot blockers. Donnie is athletic but doesn’t really have a feel for it. We don’t have any good on the ball defenders who can create chaos or are anticipatory in the passing lanes. Opponents can essentially pick who they want to attack on D.

A team better than Albany last night most likely blows us out. Donnie got those 4 open 3s, Cuffe got 2 open 3s. Our size seemed to overwhelm them initially but they outrebounded us in the 2H and they also didn’t turn the ball over in the 2H. We had 6 2nd half TOs