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Message: [QUOTE="RF2044, post: 331178, member: 40"] I think this is one of those truisms that has become overstated as time has gone on. P's recruiting tailed off--that's a fact. But Grob inherited a bowl team [granted, a poor one] with a solid prospect at QB [Patterson was a 4 star], RB talent [Brinkley, Rhodes, and several quality FBs], and a decent OL. WR was abysmal. But GRob made the offense exponentially worse in the 1 win season, the year he took over. Then somehow, despite not having anything beyond P's senior classes as you claim, he had better years than that first season. Luckily, GRob was a reasonably solid recruiter. He DID land some quality players, but his achilles heel was that he was congenitally incapable of landing impact players at a couple of positions [OL, TE, LB in particular]. So when Marrone took over, there was some talent on hand. Carter was a very good player, albeit one who was still unproven coming off of his injury. Bailey was solid. The WR talent on hand wasn't nearly as good as some claim. Sure, Williams was there, but what did he play, about 5-6 games in Marrone's first year before quitting [including an early season suspension]? To say that there wasn't much behind him is being kind--we're just now digging our way out of that hole at WR. Provo was a GRob recruit that Marrone inherited, but he had injuries derail two consecutive seasons when Marrone took over. And the OL Marrone inherited was way worse than the one GRob was handed. GRob had a better prospect at QB, equivalent RB talent, a better OL, worse depth overall, and LOTS of good players on D. Marrone inherited solid RB talent, an abysmal OL, an immensely talented knucklehead at WR who they got a half-season worth of productivity from, and several solid players on D. There might have been more talent, frosh through senior classes, than what GRob inherited, but that got compromised fast by the attrition that took place after the coaching change. Seems like a push to me--certainly not the lopsided no-brainer than some contend. [/QUOTE]

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