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Message: [QUOTE="djorange1989, post: 2691250, member: 3508"] anyone who listened to Ash speak for 3 seconds had a pretty good idea of what he is. A moron. Ash is turning out to be as close to GROB as you can get: doofus D coordinator for bigtime program? check. takes over a 4-6 win type of program and promptly wins 1 game? check. follows that up by, ahem, "improving" to 4 wins the next year, which is only an improvement because year one was so hideous? check. third year goes right back to first year utter hell? check. no, the people on this board aren't close to being right all of the time, but the last thing our program needed was another defense oriented meathead when we have this huge advantage sitting right in the middle of our campus with the Dome. thank goodness Coyle did the right thing. I have said it before, everyone hated Coyle when he bailed, can you imagine if he had bailed right after he hired Ash? [/QUOTE]