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Assuming Clemson and Miami win out...

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Who wins the ACCCG?

My opinion:

Clemson is the more complete team, even without Kelly Bryant. The backups are solid (though inexperienced). With Kelly Bryant, I believe Clemson is 10 point favorite. Without Kelly, Clemson is the favorite, not sure by how much. Clemson will modify their passing game and can play a streamlined control passing game to move the chains. They did this in the Syracuse game, it simply was not enough.

This is not a slam on Miami. They play good defense, though the running game was open to us, imagine the Clemson running game against the Miami D. The secondary is good, but I opine that Dungey was way off compared to his normal performance, must give the Miami secondary this credit - They look for opportunities to make a play for the ball rather than just looking for a stop, and it pays off. Miami's line id not to be taken lightly.

Clemson's defense will get stops and will get to the QB more so than our D.


Regarding coaches:

Swinney gets the edge, he did win a NC and played for a second NC in recent years. Richt is no slouch and could finally get a NC with Miami, just no this year. Both coaches have teams that have bought into their system, Swinney gets the edge because he has been at Clemson long enough to have the pipeline of players in his system on hand, Richt needs another year or two. Richt may not be as solid a game day coach, but you have to respect the changes he made at the half and then in the second half. Also, Richt is clearly on the same page as HCDB regarding S&C. Miami kids were running strong in the fourth while most teams are gassed. Richt gets the edge here.

As for fan bases:

Clemson fans seems more realistic. Much more into the nuts and bolts, with an understanding and an appreciation of football and less egotistic. They enjoy the sport for the sport while strongly supporting their team. Being able to discuss football without going off the deep end is a characteristic of real football fans, not lunatics/bandwagoners/big mouths.

Miami has some good fans but seems to have many more fans that are not in touch with reality (some of their fans believe they should have won last night by 30). Miami fans make me think of what Rutgers fans could be like if they had talent on their team: Expecting to be world beaters walking away with wins by 20-40 points weekly...oh, wait, Rutgers already thinks that without talent; or NCState fans without the inferiority complex.

Anyway, I think these two teams are likely to run the table and meet in the ACCCG. It will be fun to watch what happens the rest of the season.
 
Clemson better team assuming Bryant is available.
Miami has more depth on the DL that is why they were able to be more problematic towards our offense but clemson is better.
I think Virginia Tech and Notre Dame both will beat Miami.

NC State-Clemson will decide the Atlantic.
 
Who wins the ACCCG?

My opinion:

Clemson is the more complete team, even without Kelly Bryant. The backups are solid (though inexperienced). With Kelly Bryant, I believe Clemson is 10 point favorite. Without Kelly, Clemson is the favorite, not sure by how much. Clemson will modify their passing game and can play a streamlined control passing game to move the chains. They did this in the Syracuse game, it simply was not enough.

This is not a slam on Miami. They play good defense, though the running game was open to us, imagine the Clemson running game against the Miami D. The secondary is good, but I opine that Dungey was way off compared to his normal performance, must give the Miami secondary this credit - They look for opportunities to make a play for the ball rather than just looking for a stop, and it pays off. Miami's line id not to be taken lightly.

Clemson's defense will get stops and will get to the QB more so than our D.


Regarding coaches:

Swinney gets the edge, he did win a NC and played for a second NC in recent years. Richt is no slouch and could finally get a NC with Miami, just no this year. Both coaches have teams that have bought into their system, Swinney gets the edge because he has been at Clemson long enough to have the pipeline of players in his system on hand, Richt needs another year or two. Richt may not be as solid a game day coach, but you have to respect the changes he made at the half and then in the second half. Also, Richt is clearly on the same page as HCDB regarding S&C. Miami kids were running strong in the fourth while most teams are gassed. Richt gets the edge here.

As for fan bases:

Clemson fans seems more realistic. Much more into the nuts and bolts, with an understanding and an appreciation of football and less egotistic. They enjoy the sport for the sport while strongly supporting their team. Being able to discuss football without going off the deep end is a characteristic of real football fans, not lunatics/bandwagoners/big mouths.

Miami has some good fans but seems to have many more fans that are not in touch with reality (some of their fans believe they should have won last night by 30). Miami fans make me think of what Rutgers fans could be like if they had talent on their team: Expecting to be world beaters walking away with wins by 20-40 points weekly...oh, wait, Rutgers already thinks that without talent; or NCState fans without the inferiority complex.

Anyway, I think these two teams are likely to run the table and meet in the ACCCG. It will be fun to watch what happens the rest of the season.

Miami fans are right, they should've won by 30.
 
Miami fans are right, they should've won by 30.
We left a lot of points on the board as well.
The series we took over on the Miami 36 is points 9 out of 10 times for the Syracuse offense.
Also the series we got the first FG the delay of like 5 minutes killed the flow of that drive.

Miami left points for sure as well but that team isn’t as good as I thought before.
 
Miami has some good fans but seems to have many more fans that are not in touch with reality (some of their fans believe they should have won last night by 30). Miami fans make me think of what Rutgers fans could be like if they had talent on their team: Expecting to be world beaters walking away with wins by 20-40 points weekly...oh, wait, Rutgers already thinks that without talent; or NCState fans without the inferiority complex.

To be fair, there is a lot of NJ in South Florida.
 
Miami fans are right, they should've won by 30.

Who gives a crap what Miami fans think. The stats show that our D went toe to toe with them. If Dungey didn't come out with tunnel vision, this could easily have been a different game. We ran over their D in the second half, probably the best our running game has performed.

This game was up for grabs, and Miami made more plays. They aren't that much better than we are this year. Just as easily as we could have three more wins, Miami could have three losses. They went to the wire three weeks in a row.

Sure they could have won by 30. Woulda coulda shoulda. We could easily have won by 14 if some plays or calls go the other way. And we gifted them their first 13 points.
 

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