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Message: [QUOTE="sufandu, post: 4786207, member: 874"] Sure it does. His head snapped down hard. I've seen helmets pop off completely from hits that weren't helmet ro helmet. I believe you believe what you saw from where you sat. I know what I saw from an optimal camera angle with the advantage of knowing what to watch for having already seen the play a moment earlier. And I was waiting to irately jump out of my chair as they showed the replay. I was pretty disappointed when I had to change my opinion. [/QUOTE]