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Message: [QUOTE="Timonen, post: 914631, member: 81"] It's insulting, but you judge intent and everything else he's done and it's easy to see he didn't mean to be insulting. Having others pick up on the sentiment and using it as some metric for toughness (after the impact is now universally known) IS insulting. People reacting to his note isn't any reflection on them. They shouldn't have to be answering for themselves. None of this discussion should even be happening. Shafer fd up with the note, caught some flak and apologized. Now you're all keeping the battle going. Let the people who dealt with this have their weather corner. It has nothing to do with syracuse. [/QUOTE]