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Message: [QUOTE="FRANKIEFAN, post: 2750333, member: 6729"] Whats crazy OP is this is still the case despite FSU an Ville (teams considered 2 and 3 in the ACC very recently) going into the toilet. Just shows you how bad the Coastal is. Before I trash the ACC in general I think it should be pointed out that the teams picked to struggle this year ourselves included are pretty good. The 'bottom' of the ACC isn't dragging it down its the teams other than Clemson who were expected to be good. VT and Miami are disappointing for teams expected to contend. [/QUOTE]