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Message: [QUOTE="Millhouse, post: 949070, member: 78"] who is splitting hairs? michigan state has been really good. maybe i should've picked someone worse than oregon but the last 4 years Mich St went 11-3 11-2 and 13-1 with a 7-6 in there. had to give dantonio a little time to get up and running. it's hard to find good examples of non super powers being really relevant with defense easier to scheme for a good offense and hope we hit the jackpot on defense than vice versa. and i think it helps attendance. if it's just winning that draws the crowd, we're never going to compete with our own basketball team. it has to have the entertainment component as well (and i don't think the marginal fan that we're talking about thinks Mich St is as entertaining as some high scoring team not quite as good as oregon) [/QUOTE]