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Message: [QUOTE="orangenauburn, post: 1466528, member: 169"] For sake of argument 50k capacity 3k students 2k visitor 25k season ticket holders 5k walk up That leaves 15k unaccounted for on average Put an exciting, winning product on the field, you will find another 10k The other 5k are going to be 'event' type fans These discussions are futile, because until we are winning 8-9 games consistently and winning home games with exciting play, the crowds will continue to be what they are. [/QUOTE]