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Message: [QUOTE="Rufus_13th, post: 5441233, member: 7073"] I don't think there's a need to lock this thread unless people want to just bash the guy. For some here, I think looking at the CFB landscape at the cusp of it changing and the history of the program as it related to a coach's legacy should be fine to discuss, [LIST] [*]Dino Babers [*]D.J. Durkin [*]Randy Edsall [*]Scott Frost [*]Al Golden [/LIST] Those were the choices. I think SU won the hiring that off season. 2018 was special. Yeah 2020 sucked and blew any momentum it seems. B2B bowls into Fran Brown. Fran obviously saw something in what Dino built, even with its flaws. I agree I don't think Dino could head coach in this new landscape. Think about this: If Dino wins 1 more game in 2019 (Pitt and NC state games were kinda close) and 1+ more game in 2021(Rutgers, FSU, Clemson, Wake OT game were all close), he is still the coach? These are the things I think about when the lights go out. [/QUOTE]