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Message: [QUOTE="NKR1978, post: 5441350, member: 186"] The football program got better over Babers tenure. Even the 5 win seasons were better than what he inherited. It's ok to disagree, but I think comparing football and basketball is relevant. The basketball team hasn't been ranked at all since the final poll of 2021 after the tournament. The football team at least gave us some excitement over the last couple years of the Babers era. I just don't get the animosity toward him. I was happy when he was let go and have been all in with Fran, but Dino was pretty beloved here his first few years and the constant pot shots seem unnecessary for (again) a guy who handed off a 6 win program to Fran along with some nice talent that made up some pretty important pieces of this past season. And I'm only bringing that up because others have discounted 2018 as being with done with Shafer's guys. [/QUOTE]