Barron's outline for FSU Trustees realignment discussion

[sufan]

Barron's outline for BOT realignment discussion
free article at Warchant: (rivals FSU site: link from home page: "latest news":

http://floridastate./content.asp?CID=1373740


"Florida State President Eric Barron suggested that playing higher profile out of conference football games, winning more in the Atlantic Coast Conference, realigning the ACC divisions and keeping a close eye on the pending BCS playoff format are "keys to success"


"We're not seeking anything, we are not expecting anything, there are not any conversations are going on."


"Barron told the trustees that the ACC would not be left out of any four-team playoff format and emphasized the importance of conference champions carrying heavier weight in any playoff format"


"Fan reaction: Barron told the BOT that he has received more than 100 e-mails ranging from individuals with messages ranging from "go (to the Big 12) or be fired" to "I always wanted to attend some away games but I have no intention of traveling to Ames or Lubbock."


"According to Barron's outline, one-third of FSU's alumni base lives outside of the state of Florida. And when analyzing that group, 51 percent lives in an ACC footprint, the highest of any BCS conference.

The lowest was the Big 12's footprint, which had just 10 percent of FSU's out-of-state alumni. Outside of Florida, the top six states for FSU alumni are (in no order): Georgia, Texas, California, New York, Virginia and North Carolina. The Big 12 also has the fewest FSU Booster clubs (5) of any BCS Conference footprint. The ACC leads with 20."

"Academics: Barron wrote that the ACC and Big 10 are the only conferences that have all of its schools ranked among the top 101 nationally. Barron did not specify which publication's ranking he was referring to for those numbers. He called the Association of American Universities "very important" and noted it was invitation only. The Big 10 has 11 schools that are members of the AAU. The Pac-12 is second among BCS Conferences with seven. The ACC has six members. The Big 12 ranks last with three."

"Why are we talking about it?

a) Sells newspapers and gets attention to blogs
b) Results in fear that other will leave ACC (or Big 12 or Big East), and a school could be left behind (miss BCS playoff bid or weakened conference)
c) Push more for dollars (especially given weak budgets)"

more at article

 

[HtownOrange]

Sounds like he is doing his homework. Perhaps the fanbase will do theirs, now. Probably not. Much easier to read a blog by a WVU poster that obviously has deep ties in the Big 21, now that they've been in the Big 12 for two weeks. And we all know that everything on the interwebs is true because it is in print. :bang:

 

[cusenole9]

Sounds like he is doing his homework. Perhaps the fanbase will do theirs, now. Probably not. Much easier to read a blog by a WVU poster that obviously has deep ties in the Big 21, now that they've been in the Big 12 for two weeks. And we all know that everything on the interwebs is true because it is in print. :bang:

The FSU scout board has gone from a little ridiculous to unreadable. I hope you don't mistake the crazy freeboard posters for the entire FSU fanbase.

 

[NKR1978]

The FSU scout board has gone from a little ridiculous to unreadable. I hope you don't mistake the crazy freeboard posters for the entire FSU fanbase.

It seems like most of the people on the FSU and Clemson scout boards are fans of Big 12 (WVU) schools and fans of other ACC schools trying to convince the FSU/Clemson fans why they should stay or go. Because obviously those are the people who need to be convinced. It is quite the trainwreck. I would be annoyed as heck if this place was overrun with WVU fans.

 

[cusenole9]

It seems like most of the people on the FSU and Clemson scout boards are fans of Big 12 (WVU) schools and fans of other ACC schools trying to convince the FSU/Clemson fans why they should stay or go. Because obviously those are the people who need to be convinced. It is quite the trainwreck. I would be annoyed as heck if this place was overrun with WVU fans.

Yep that's pretty much what has been going on fr the last few weeks. Now the FSU posters are either in "It's a done deal and it's ridiculous to think otherwise mode" or "It never has been and never will be a possibility mode." And posters like me in "I don't know what's going on but I would like to know mode" really don't have a place there. What's strange is that a couple of the long time posters who I believe are insiders think it's a done deal, but it's looking more and more like this was just wishful thinking by a couple people who are fed up with the ACC.

 

[NKR1978]

Yep that's pretty much what has been going on fr the last few weeks. Now the FSU posters are either in "It's a done deal and it's ridiculous to think otherwise mode" or "It never has been and never will be a possibility mode." And posters like me in "I don't know what's going on but I would like to know mode" really don't have a place there. What's strange is that a couple of the long time posters who I believe are insiders think it's a done deal, but it's looking more and more like this was just wishful thinking by a couple people who are fed up with the ACC.

Maybe it was a done deal. Maybe it still is. Who the knows?

The only truly sincere statement seems to be from Dabo, and while possible, I don't think he would be that emphatic unless it was true.
As long as the ACC is considered part of the five, I don't care whether FSU leaves. Though I obviously hope the ACC stays together in its current form.

 

[HtownOrange]

The FSU scout board has gone from a little ridiculous to unreadable. I hope you don't mistake the crazy freeboard posters for the entire FSU fanbase.

You are closer to what I picture most FSU fans, not sure, but having a preference or at least some guidelines for a decision. I realize that most posters on boards are harder core fans than the avereage fan, that includes all of us on this site. The problem is that the fans who look at things from a critical analysis point of view are drowned by the rabid fans, thus my comment.

Please do not interpret my posts as painting FSU as foolish and such. FSU should look into opportunities and should make reasoned decisions, like I think they will do/are doing. I knew many FSU fans while living in Jax and FSU is one of my second tier teams, the only Florida team I cheer for (unless Syracuse is benefitted). I respect your candidness and your opinions, even if I disagree.

 

[cusenole9]

Maybe it was a done deal. Maybe it still is. Who the **** knows?

The only truly sincere statement seems to be from Dabo, and while possible, I don't think he would be that emphatic unless it was true.
As long as the ACC is considered part of the five, I don't care whether FSU leaves. Though I obviously hope the ACC stays together in its current form.

Yep for Dabo to say what he said the way he said it seems pretty darn sincere to me. And like you said, the only statement to date that sounds sincere. Syracuse and FSU in the same conference is a dream come true for me so I hope the ACC stays together, plays some damn good football and gets some more money at the look-in.

 

[cusenole9]

You are closer to what I picture most FSU fans, not sure, but having a preference or at least some guidelines for a decision. I realize that most posters on boards are harder core fans than the avereage fan, that includes all of us on this site. The problem is that the fans who look at things from a critical analysis point of view are drowned by the rabid fans, thus my comment.

Please do not interpret my posts as painting FSU as foolish and such. FSU should look into opportunities and should make reasoned decisions, like I think they will do/are doing. I knew many FSU fans while living in Jax and FSU is one of my second tier teams, the only Florida team I cheer for (unless Syracuse is benefitted). I respect your candidness and your opinions, even if I disagree.

Nope I think you've been well reasoned and respectful with all of your comments and I appreciate that. Glad you pull for the Noles instead of turds just south of Jax.

 

[rrlbees]

Whether FSU or anyone leaves comes down to only 2 things. Everything else is noise. $$$$ and the ability to play for a NC. That's it. The next couple weeks of BCS meetings will go a longt way to determine if anything happens this year. If nobody moves, it will come up again next year and the year after and...as the NC evolves.