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[QUOTE="jncuse, post: 2887198, member: 1969"]
Wow.   I don't what to say.  So much wrong in your comment.

1) Willie Mays is a top 10 player of all time.  If Bonds does not measure up to him in all areas, it doesn't mean he is not a great.    Plus I think you are exaggerating the variances here.

A top 10 LF in that era?   Really.  Bill James in 2000 had him ranked as the 3rd best Left Fielder of All time behind Ted Williams and Stan Musial.   He also wrote "Along with Rickey Henderson, Barry Bonds is the most underappreciated superstar of my lifetime)

Remember that 1990-1993 was a defensive era, especially in the NL.  The 50s was much more of an offensive era.

In terms of stealing bases... this was not the 70s or 80s.  Stealing 39 bases a year over the decade, made him one of the 5 base stealers of the decade.

Not an elite fielder?  7 Gold Gloves mean nothing to you?  I was an Expos fan that watched the Pirates play often as they were in the NL East as well.  I watched him play in person about a dozen times during his high atletiic era.

A different name on him and he doesn't win the MVP?  Who the hell is the MVP then in those year?  Are you insinuating having the name of his father who was a very disliked person helped him win awards?

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Tell me who was MVP in any of those years other than Bonds.

Just being borderline HOF'er before 2000 was nuts.   He was an all time great player and jerk before the roids.  But a great.

I suspect you are one of those HR, RBI,AVG guys who totally discounts the value that 130 BB's per season (his average in the 90s)  It's OK you are around fifty.   When I was 9 years old I was reading the Bill James Abstract and the Elias Baseball Analyst.   I assume you still thought the RBI was king back at the time.

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