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Message: [QUOTE="dinosaurbbq, post: 1797409, member: 1333"] Athletics and Football personnel could literally mean 1 coach. Thus, the "all chose collectively" is not necessarily accurate. "all" athletics and football personnel didn't know. At least one did. If it was one football coach or assistant in some capacity, is it fair to assume Briles knew? No, it isn't. Baylor hired a law firm to investigate-- Whether they told Briles of that or not is really of no significance anyway, so I don't understand your point as to what significance the hiring of a law firm to investigate has. If he knew of a sexual assault and didn't report it or if he received a report and contacted the victim to discourage her from filing a report or if he knew of his assistant coaches doing the same and didn't address that, then absolutely, he is a scumbag and needs to be thrown in jail. What you've pointed to doesn't establish any of that. The closest I've seen yet is your post of an hour ago with four articles I hadn't seen. The last two establish that Briles knew of criminal reports to police of sexual assaults by players and allowed them to continue to play. However, this country's criminal justice system is founded upon the belief that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. If we start taking away things from those accused, but not yet convicted, of crimes, we violate their due process rights. The legal system frowns on that. A player suspended indefinitely because of an allegation that takes 2 years to go to trial and results in an acquittal (not guilty) never gets those 2 years back to play to attempt to build up draft stock to have a financially lucrative career. So most programs suspend or dismiss based on convictions not arrest or charges alone. If a player admits to a violation of the law, which is also a violation of team rules, then the team can and should discipline, but if the player steadfastly denies the charges and behavior leading to them, it is difficult for the school to suspend simply because charges are pending. [/QUOTE]

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