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Message: [QUOTE="dinosaurbbq, post: 1807726, member: 1333"] Art -- I don't have a position that he did or didn't know and I'm not actually even a Briles supporter. I just did not know of anything out there that establishes that he knew or was directly involved in any shady stuff and was genuinely curious if there was something or not. It seemed to be accepted as a foregone conclusion that he did by most in the media, the public and on this board simply because of the fact he was fired and the fact that the investigating law firm vaguely referenced actions by "athletic and football personnel". There were two real points to the issue in my mind, which we never really got to because we never progressed past whether there was evidence to establish he knew or was directly involved in wrongdoing. The first is that the school can obviously terminate him just for being the head of a program where this occurred, because he is getting paid for being the head of a program-- but whether he knew or was directly involved with shady stuff is determinative of whether he gets paid upon termination of the contract or not. If he knew or was directly involved, he gets no cash because the termination is "for cause" meaning for engaging in behavior that was criminal or violated NCAA regulations including Title IX. If he did not, he would be paid and the termination would be without cause. They reached a settlement that he found acceptable, so I'm guessing he's getting paid a significant amount. The second is that I have a problem with coaches being held personally responsible and losing jobs, wins, money, reputation where there is no proof of personal involvement in any wrongdoing (Briles was called a scumbag, an and worse on this board, in the media and in the public and he'll never work again in the field). My angle applies just as much to one Jimmy B who was held personally responsible in losing wins and being suspended from coaching despite proof that he had personally engaged in any wrongdoing. [/QUOTE]

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