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Message: [QUOTE="Moontan, post: 38836, member: 166"] Look again... there's no tweaking. Just a simple Orange block-S. Yes, there was discussion of concerns about potential trademark issues which may have been the reason for the transitional arched "Syracuse" lettering over the S. That lettering is gone now. Different colors, different conferences, both with long documented use of the symbol. One would already expect MSU to have done whatever they were going to do by now. For all we know there is now an understanding between the schools. [/QUOTE]