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Message: [QUOTE="richmondcuse03, post: 5310576, member: 984"] But you also can't eliminate what he did without Brady either. Yes, he was an amazing DC with the Giants. But he also flamed out with the Browns as HC and quit on the Jets via a paper napkin. Brady still won without Bill. The same can't be said the other way around. It is what it is. I think it's more likely they worked very well together for a number of years and shared the same mindset in terms of sacrificing for the team, work ethic, etc. There's nothing wrong with that. But you have to acknowledge Brady's contributions just as much as Bill's. [/QUOTE]