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Message: [QUOTE="721Comstock, post: 5310579, member: 5429"] Yeah, except I managed to do it with a :10 second Google search. Which, as I was typing it, pre-populated - so clearly I'm not the first person ever to search for what his record was without Brady at QB. Mind you - I do think he was a defensive mastermind, as I am a G-Men fan. Meanwhile... Brady went to a moribund Bucs franchise, and made them winners. While Hoodie Bill started losing lots more games than he was winning, and eventually got canned. [/QUOTE]