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[QUOTE="Cusefan95, post: 5312211, member: 173"]
Giving a defensive coordinator credit for two Super Bowl wins as if that is perfectly equivalent to being a head coach is a huge stretch on your part.  And saying he turned the Browns into a Super Bowl contender is absurd - he had one winning season and was a 5-11 catastrophe his last year.  Lots of guys have one winning season - you’re claiming it’s certain he would have had more except for the Browns disfunction at the time.  Not any evidence for that.

Somehow Belichick manages to be both overrated and underrated simultaneously, with few making anything I think is a reasonable assessment.  He was an amazing DC, and he deserves a lot of credit for going with Brady, and you can’t discount his Super Bowl wins as a HC.  So he’s not entirely a product of Brady - and even if there’s truth to that, it overlooks how much flack he took for going with Brady when Bledsoe was healthy.  But painting him as the best coach ever who has always been and always will be a success is a little bit of overkill as well.  Good coach, belongs in the top 5 and in arguments for best ever - but he’s not a clear cut superior coach to Walsh, Lombardi, or Shula.  And he had a lot of bad years, too.

I think he’s not a great fit for college either - he’ll probably be able to get UNC to 8-9 wins a year…but I don’t think that will be viewed as success by their fans or the media.  Anything less than consistent top 10 and playoff appearances will be viewed as failure.
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