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[QUOTE="Cusefan95, post: 5312270, member: 173"]
Belichick had 21 seasons with winning records, & 8 losing records.  Lombardi had ten winning seasons, none with losing records.  Shula had 27 winning seasons, 2 losing (4 at .500).

So yes - Bill had a lot of bad years compared to Lombardi and Shula.  I realize as a Patriots fan you’re not going to accept there is a viable argument there were others who were better…but the numbers don’t lie.  That he couldn’t win without Brady while Shula won with some pretty mediocre guys in some of those 27 years could mean Bill had a higher ceiling than Shula, but couldn’t coach up weaker rosters into a competitive team like Shula could and so his floor was much lower.  What Lombardi did from St Cecilia HS all the way through to his last year with the Redskins is absurd - If I had to pick one guy to coach for a season or a game, I’m taking Lombardi over Bill and feeling really good about it.  That Bill didn’t burn out is impressive though.

Let’s keep in mind that - like many have said here - for Bill, a bad year was not having Brady.  That he never really won squat with anyone else factors in to how he is and will be viewed historically.  Does he belong in the discussion of best ever?  Sure.  Is it clear cut?  Not a chance.
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