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[QUOTE="Cusefan95, post: 5312368, member: 173"]
I’m not sure how to rate Mac Jones - he wasn’t great, but bringing in Patricia and Judge as play caller and QB coach was horrible.  Whatever development Jones had going on got destroyed.  No idea how he would have turned out, but that decision was terrible and is a mark against Belichick.  In order to argue for Bill as clearly best ever, it’s requiring trashing Jones as total garbage and it was a miracle Bill ever won with him…if he’d brought in someone that was a legitimate OC when McDaniels left, that’d be a stronger case.

I’m also not sure “and he did it in the salary cap era”!  is a strong argument for him, since he had Brady taking well under market value for most of his career.  Arguably it was like he was given a ten meter head start in a 100 meter dash - and that’s being spun as him overcoming a big challenge.

Again - I’m not arguing he was terrible.  I’m arguing the “he was clearly the bestest ever!” take is a little excessive.  Every coach has marks against them.  Lombardi burned himself out from every coaching job he ever had, and so he never had to remake a roster to remain relevant.  How Shula managed to never win a Super Bowl with Marino - and only made one - has to be taken into account.  Bill took full advantage of any advantage he had - can’t really say that about Shula.

I think there’s arguments for Lombardi, Shula, Landry, and Bill for best coach ever.  Walsh is probably top five, but I think an argument for him would be tough.  Noll is, in my opinion, just outside the top 5.  If we’re calling all of them “unique” - great.  I can agree with that.
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