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Message: [QUOTE="dasher, post: 5528140, member: 6061"] Your record is the most important thing when talking about a coach. So it is 100% not a simplistic view. It is what gets you either fired or rehired. I didn't say it was horrible. I didn't say you said it was horrible. I will just say it isn't a good record. In Brady's last year with the Pats, I think they were 12-4. In the next 4 years without Brady, 3 of them losing years, BB was 29-38. I don't think that is a coincidence. Oh. and Brady went to TB where they were 7-9 the year before. They won the Super Bowl the next year. It isn't a negative to say that with the greatest QB of our time, he had a fantastic run. Nor is it incorrect to say that without that great qb, he wasn't very successful. [/QUOTE]