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Message: [QUOTE="baggerbob, post: 899191, member: 164"] You can't compare the conference we were in to where we are now. That would be saying an apple is an orange, we now have a real conference, with many years of tradition. Florida St, Miami, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Notre Dame, Louisville all have recent history of being good, the second tier in this conference is much better. Georgia Tech, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, North Carolina, Duke are a good second tier. Virginia, Wake Forest, North Carolina St have had good years in the recent past. The past year National Champion Florida St, and Clemson wins the Orange bowl, the only conference to win 2 BCS bowl games. The SEC always talks we won 7 in a row, well they are the only conference this year to lose 2 BCS bowl games. [/QUOTE]