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Message: [QUOTE="cmr27, post: 2128317, member: 215"] We can't get a P5 established coach? In the SEC, Tennessee was the definition of mediocre last season. 16-16 record. Middle of the pack. Head coach: Rick Barnes. Colorado was middle of the pack in the Pac 12. Their coach is someone named Tad Boyle, which sounds like a skin condition. In the ACC, the most mediocre program was probably Wake, led by Danny Manning. You are telling me that Barnes, Boyle and Manning (sounds like a law firm) wouldn't even think of coming to SU. Mind you, these aren't even the worst coaches in the P5. These are the middle of pack guys and Barnes is most definitely established. You are short-selling the SU job like crazy. [/QUOTE]