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Message: [QUOTE="BuffOrange, post: 4967982, member: 1643"] Maybe it's me but I don't recall so much obsession over MVP ten years ago? It's all some people talk about from week 3 on, it's exhausting. Even as a JA apologist I'm fine with not winning this year. Between the win streak at the end being driven by defense and the inflated sneak TDs..I get it. It stinks that Rodgers put up alien #'s in '20 & '21 and the "mvp scorecard" is so misleading vs someone like Lamar. Whatever, just throw another log on the fire of unfair things in his career, like McLoser's defense never showing up for a big game. I will say between the "Turnovers are everything" and "Reg Season doesn't matter" takes, considering the playoff Ls having nothing to do with turnovers...the JA critics have really tied themselves into a pretzel. Incredible juxtaposition really. [/QUOTE]