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Message: [QUOTE="Ward, post: 1470577, member: 1958"] Yea I mean I read Simmons tweets and understood what they were attempting to communicate to me so I didn't need them repeated but said differently. I just didn't agree with it. You say Colts lost because their QB couldn't beat the Pats D when they say they would film Manning's hand signals and corresponding signals on the side to help predict what he was checking into and out of. To me that seems related to why you say the Colts lost. You say Eagles lost because McNabb didn't play well and they didn't do the hurry up effectively when down 10 points. The article claims the Eagles were perplexed when Brady marched down and scored a TD on 3 of 4 drives where Philly used a seldom used defense as part of their game plan and NE looked like they were expecting it. Maybe Philly isn't in that situation if NE isn't so potent against that defensive plan. You say Steelers lost because Pitt QB was awful and Hines Ward said NE defense was calling out their signals and play calls. That contributes to a QB playing awful. My point is those factors don't occur in a vacuum and very well could have been impacted by these allegations. Before this report I would've agreed with you on the Spygate paragraph but it seems like BB was doing much more than what they said he was in the initial report. It's just hard for me to believe the Pats were acting as innocent as they claim if they were having their team representatives that were filming cover their Pats logo's or lie about working for the Patriots. If it is legal and a widespread thing why go through as much trouble to hide it as they did. I don't think the judge wiped away Brady's suspension because he found him innocent. Unless I'm mistaken, the suspension was nullified because it showed Brady didn't get a fair process that he should have under the CBA. Which I agreed with. For example, Goodell limiting access to certain evidence/testimony and limiting Brady's representation from fully presenting his case. I'm not saying Brady was or wasn't innocent I'm just saying that I think that was the basis for the judges decision. I'm glad Brady won the case and finally brought some eyes to the whole disciplinary process in the NFL. I'm not so sure it is as big of a lovefest for Goodell and the other owners as you think. They have to be getting sick of his repeated image of incompetency. I would be shocked if the information in this report is new to the owners around the league but if I were an owner and saw that I would have a big problem with this. I thought Martz comments were pretty damning in particular. [/QUOTE]

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